Listen Up!

Listen Up!

PicsArt_12-29-06.29.18.jpg

This image was Willy Wonka and it said – Yahusha? – You learned Hebrew on Facebook; didn’t you?

To all the johnny-come-lately variants that do not reflect and / or actually teach against Yahweh and Yahshua and the use thereof – Listen Up!

Well at least you have the pagan – God/god, LORD/lord, Latin prefix/Greek suffix Jesus thing right

Some 10 / 15yrs ago everyone was fine with Yahweh and Yahshua without much variant. Now however it has become in-vogue, even fashionable to pander to, assert, even force this as a point of contention.

All in the name of being special with secret special untapped knowledge – Ooo

Yes – There are variants of the tetragrammaton – YHWH (Yahweh), YHVH (Yahveh) and YHUH (Yahueh) – The point is we just don’t know thanks to the Pharisees and Rabbis but what we do know is Yah is the prefix short form from Ps.68:4 – And whether; eh, Ah or ah even Yahooeh, Ah or ah the suffix transition to any of these variants will produce a ‘W’ sound (except from ‘V’). However the suffix eh, Ah or ah is still consistent.

Actually Yahshua is the construction of & means the call to or the rich (shua) * Shua – Job 36:19, salvation (yeshua) * yeshua/h – Gen.49:18, of Yah * Yah – Ps.68:4 (short form of Yahweh) – As in Abram’s name change to Abr’ah’am, As in Sari’s name change to Sar’ah’, As in the verb ‘yeshua’ being changed to the Name Y’ah’shua – as in the universal Hebrew phrase no matter what language; Hallelu-Yah – Praise Yahweh.

Salvation from Yeshua/h – & – Yahh from Ps.68:4 – & – Hallelu-Yah – & – shua meaning the rich call to Salvation and that is the $64 question – What does ‘usha’ mean? – Not a ding dong thing in Hebrew.

Proponents of ‘usha’ point to some guy that made a video or wrote an article or a series of them that plays fast and loose with the facts – that assert a construct of wish it were so Hebrew word confabulations – that completely ignore the nuts & bolts of the matter.

Now show me your preferred stand alone word;

yahu/yahw/yaho or usha/wsha/osha or sha or ??? for that matter in any verse – with the definition and reference number (Note – don’t even try citing 3467/8 for ‘sha’ )

Side note ‘usha’ is the sanskit **girls** name for a demon goddess

Now – how honoring is that?

See – Torah Without Rabbinics wordpress . Com – Search ‘usha’

(Note among the initial complaints is that ‘yeshua/h’ is a feminine verb)

You make up a spelling YaHU יהו. not found in the text as if it was a legitimate stand-alone Hebrew word. Complete with No definition & No reference number & No verse –

Some will lodge – Yahshua spelled יהשוע isn’t found in any text
Yet ignore legitimate Hebrew words such as;

H3444
יְשׁוּעָה
yeshû‛âh
yesh-oo’-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: – deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
Total KJV occurrences: 78

H3050
יָהּ
yâhh
yaw
Contracted for H3068, and meaning the same; Jah, the sacred name: – Jah, the Lord, most vehement. Cp. names in -iah, -jah.
Total KJV occurrences: 49

Bla, Bla, Bla, Blahhhh – Some take the long way around to prove what I have already said – “Tell me the exact reference number with the Hebrew word usha or sha – No one ever has”

Some will go so far as to lodge ‘vain’ from Exodus 20:7 as ‘shua’; But are in fact caught in a lie

H7723 Vain
shâv’ shav
shawv, shav
(This is at best dyslexic, at worst dishonest – saying that shawv / shav is somehow shua – even if we grant u in place of v; the word would be shawu or shau)

H7723 from  H7722 – This must be the presumed ‘chink’ in the amour – Yet it does not change the fact of H7723 Vain and H7769 Halloo – cry, riches

H7722
שֹׁאָה שׁוֹאָה שׁוֹא
shô’ shô’âh shô’âh
sho, sho-aw’, sho-aw’

H7769
שׁוּעַ
shûa‛
shoo’-ah
From H7768; a halloo: – cry, riches.

By definition hal·loo – “used to attract someone’s attention” – It is a neutral – Some try to say ‘cry’ is a negative – But it too is a neutral – Example ‘cry for joy’ ??? And ‘riches’ who would not want that? So this ‘cry’ is to the rich ‘salvation’ (yeshua/h) of YHWH thru Yahshua.

Yahweh is not the Elohim of confusion

And they said what??? “Which isn’t found in any text”??? – Don’t look now but they are hoisted on their own petard. I guess deceitful rhetoric is as far as their honesty goes

Proponents invariably always comment their assertions without proof – For that’s the only way they can validate their load.

Now 1] show the stand-alone Hebrew word of your choice 2] with the verse it is used in, 3] with the definition of and 4] the reference number for this imagined word.
Yahu
Usha
Ushua
Sha
Yahw
Wsha
Yaho
Osha
Or any as long as your arm imagined variant of the forgoing.

I’ll show you mine
* Yah – Ps.68:4
H3050
יָהּ
yâhh
yaw
Contracted for H3068, and meaning the same; Jah, the sacred name: – Jah, the Lord, most vehement. Cp. names in -iah, -jah.
Total KJV occurrences: 49

* Shua – Job 36:19
H7769
שׁוּעַ
shûa‛
shoo’-ah
From H7768; a halloo: – cry, riches.
Total KJV occurrences: 2
H7770
שׁוּעַ
shûa‛
shoo’-ah
The same as H7769; shua, a Canaanite: – Shua, Shuah.
Total KJV occurrences: 3

03444. hewvy y@shuw`ah, yesh-oo’-aw
feminine passive participle of 3467; something saved, i.e. (abstractly) deliverance; hence, aid, victory, prosperity:–deliverance, health, help(-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
See Hebrew 03467 (yasha`)
… shuw`ah
07769. ewv shuwa`, shoo’-ah
from 7768; a halloo:–cry, riches.

* yeshua/h – Gen.49:18
H3444
יְשׁוּעָה
yeshû‛âh
yesh-oo’-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: – deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
Total KJV occurrences: 78

And consider what I just found – H4444

מַלְכִּישׁוּעַ

malki^yshu^a‛

mal-kee-shoo’-ah
From H4428 and H7769; king
(male) of wealth; Malkishua, an Israelite (male) : – Malchishua.: – Malchishua.

So —- – shua, yeshua, Yah means something – what from the Bible does usha/ushua/wshua/wsha/sha mean? Zipp0 – Nada – n0thing

Consider – Usha is a Sanskrit name **for girls** meaning Morning, Dawn, Sun rise
http://www.baby-names-meanings.net/meaning/usha.html

And lookie what else I found
03388. avwry Y@ruwsha’, yer-oo-shaw’
or Yaruwshah {yer-oo-shaw’} **feminine** passive participle of 3423; possessed; Jerusha or Jerushah, as **Israelitess**:–Jerusha, Jerushah.
So the **feminine** argument concerning shua/ushua/wshua/oshua – is just out to lunch. This after all is among the ‘usha’/ ‘sha’ proponents initial **feminine** ‘girl’ complaints about the Name based on ‘shua’ /  ‘yeshua/h’.

And lookie this
The worship of this *”goddess”* spread throughout all the cultures of the world. She is found in India as the Hindu dawn- *goddess* “Usha/Ushas,” and in Western cultures and religions of today, including Christianity, called **”Easter”**.
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/Documents/Sunworship.htm

And this
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110219075731AAovnI6
USHA – *Female* Hindi myth name of a demon *princess*.

(Note among the initial complaints is that ‘yeshua/h’ is a feminine verb)

So Attention! – Nothing else will do – Show!

The Biblical verse – with
The stand alone Biblical word – with
The Biblical definition – with
The Biblical reference number

or admit the demon *princess* research and that you are in error.

Of all the barrel chested demanders – No 1 ever has

They have no choice but to admit the demon goddess research

So put up or shut up –

I realize that those who will not be honest & will not be changed; will go on their happy little way as if this never happened – However; You will from now on know that you are in error; with a corresponding reward 2Ths.2:10-12.

Choose Wisely

PS

Did some more research
H3091
יְהוֹשֻׁעַ יְהוֹשׁוּעַ
yehôshûa‛ yehôshûa‛
yeh-ho-shoo’-ah, yeh-ho-shoo’-ah
From H3068 and H3467; Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (that is, Joshua), the Jewish leader: – Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare H1954, H3442.
This does seem to uphold the extra ‘o’ or ‘u’ sound – however as I have said this leaves no opening for the usha written or vocalized pronunciation
Gen_49:18 I have waitedH6960 for thy salvation,H3444 O YHWH.H3068
H3444
יְשׁוּעָה
yeshû‛âh
yesh-oo’-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: – deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
Again shua Not usha
So –
Yahweh/Ah/ah and Yahshua can become
Yahuweh/Ah/ah and Yahushua but never usha

Barring ‘usha’ you do have a choice within these confines

PSs; Also see
https://torahwithoutrabbinics.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/melkizedeq-priesthood-challenge-series/
**************************
1.12.16
Name Evidence (From another exchange)

H3091

יְהוֹשֻׁעַ יְהוֹשׁוּעַ
yeho^shu^a‛ yeho^shu^a‛
yeh-ho-shoo’-ah, yeh-ho-shoo’-ah
From H3068 and H3467; Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (that is, Joshua), the Jewish leader: – Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare H1954, H3442.

I am surprized that you did not make/showcase this observation – But if I am honest I must concede in as much as there does seem to be an apparent anomaly

יְהוֹשֻׁעַ יְהוֹשׁוּעַ
yeho^shu^a‛ yeho^shu^a‛
yeh-ho-shoo’-ah, yeh-ho-shoo’-ah

יְהוֹשֻׁעַ * – * יְהוֹשׁוּעַ – With the 2nd ו (o/u/w) missing –

Hebraically spelt differently but phonetically anglicized the same – Interesting – I am not up with the vowel pointing; top or bottom – 1st off; I do not care for the Babylonian Jewish script dubbed ‘Hebrew’ – but the *kubutz* ‘…’ at the bottom of the ‘shin’ is to have an oo sound; which would make it understandable that ‘yeh-ho-shoo’-ah’ is sited in both cases. I realize you will site Mazoretic tampering – But there’s a difference in crying ‘foul’ and proving it – and that in every case. Happy hunting – knock yourself out. And there’s a point – the whole Babylonian Jewish script itself is 1 gigantic ‘tamper’.

I understand in your rush to expunge ‘shua’ and standardize all understanding to sha / usha but this summarily ignores some indelible facts; for instance that Yahshua is foremostly valid from ‘yeshua/h’ Gen.49:18 – Some stating ‘shua’ means vain – This is not so – neither only or always. So your saying Jacob/Israel waited for Yah’s ‘vain’ salvation ??? Preposterous! And the remaining fact that ‘sha’ is not a stand alone Hebrew word and means nothing – that ‘usha’ is not a stand alone Hebrew word and means nothing. The same point could be made of ‘Yahu’ it is not a stand alone Hebrew word. It is a prefix; it is a suffix; but it does not stand alone.

I admit now; you do have a slim velum of potential proof. But you turn your point on a pinhead hint the supposed whisper of potential proof as if it were the Lion’s share – while manufacturing other unsustainable ‘proofs’; cookie cutting from words to be words – Yet ignore direct indelible proof in favor of your chosen pick – wish it were exclusively so pronunciation. That coincidently makes you the purveyors with the reservoir of special untapped secret (so-called) knowledge. What could be wrong with that picture?

Yet indisputably for all time ‘Yah’ (YHWH) and ‘Shua’ (call/riches) & yeshua/h (salvation) are all stand alone Hebrew words with definable evidence, meaning, definition & biblical use.

That being the normative; the honest cannot exclusively ignore either.

Hallelu-Yah – Reminiscent of Halloo; Yes?  – (Crying Praise to Yah? – not Praise Yahu )

PS – You prefer Yahuah ‘yah-hoo’-ah’? – Consider; Yahshua ‘yah-shoo’-ah’ – Phonetically is a nice fit. AND a nice fit with all the Biblical evidence; Eh? (A) get it?

Advertisements

6 thoughts on “Listen Up!

  1. Does the sheen or shin in Yah’s salvation’s name And with the eyin cause the vowel sound of “way” or “weh” sound in Yahweh to change to hoowah sound when pronouncing yahshuah? Or should the Sons name contain the same sounds as the fathers? I see your mid rash using
    The concordance , as explaining the sound variations but isn’t it possible that these early scholers have or had the same issue we have today… That of the possibility that when ” vowel sounds were added from the picture language, that the “preservers” could have been careful in their traditional bias to have add Ed a different “vowel” pointer to YHWH’s name in order to hide the correct sound in order to fulfill what they understood as not to use the name in their thinking not taking his name in vein, thus in a way taking his name not? If all what Yah’s salvation said that he came in his fathers name, then based on your mid rash , could only include the first two letters … The Yod or Yud or Yude and the 2nd , the Hay or Heh ?
    So, my conclusion is, what part ot YHWH ‘s name was Yashu-“weh” referring to? Just the yode and the hey sound? Or was he meaning that the sheen and eyin would sound like the wah -hey? Like this “Yah-shuweh” and thus phonetically sound like Yahweh.
    People in commentaries discoverd sound variants in the set apart name. I see these, and sometimes these variants are understandable when his name is addressed directly. But I will agree to disagree on the matter that this discussion runs into dead ends because we don’t really know 100% that the sound of the pronounciation of his name wasn’t monk’d with when it was supposedly preserved from the picture to the flame.

  2. Interesting take on the same proposition – Long A (way) or Short a (awe) – as you said ‘we don’t really know 100%’ – At least we can agree on what we do know – Hallelu-Yah – The 1st part of His Father’s Name.

  3. Question Dr. Perry.
    In the klein’s etymological dictionary , re: the pronounciation of Hallel-Yah , the hey-lamed-lamed—is pronounced hallel . Then you add the yode -hey- you get two compressions: Hallel and Yah. So the question: where did the oo sound come from?
    Hallel=simple definition : praise. Then the Yode-Hey. =ing -praise Yah. With the oo sound in this , this would be probably the addition of the waw. But saying praise the Yah just sounds funny. Praise the lord yes, but this is just because we are conditioned for this, but not the other. But really in keeping with proper Heblish,
    We should be saying Praise THE Yah. That is if the waw is there . Just where my crazy thinking goes sometimes.

  4. ChaYah Shalom tagged you in a post.

    ChaYah Shalom
    October 15 at 9:37am

    Great write up Drdave Perry when i got to the part about “for girls” and noticed Dawn, morning, etc.. I totally thought about Ishtar!! Kirk Dewitt could benefit from reading this….. He prefers to keep calling Ishtar Easter…instead of hearing the truth.

    • So in black and white, without argument, what is the correct spelling of GOD/JESUS in your opinion? There is so much debate, and way over my head at times, i can’t pin point what either the debaters are talking about? Is it YHWH? Yahweh, and Yahshua? Just spell it out for me

      • Shirl I appreciate your wanting to definitively know – But the truth is no matter how much drum beating – no one does thanks in large part to the Pharisees that became Rabbis

        But There are things we can absolutely know;

        * Yah – Ps.68:4

        * Shua – Job 36:19

        See post

        Hallelu-Yah

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s