To You who Say

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To You who Say

We uphold Torah/Covenant – the uncompromising/unchanging Word of YHWH – Sounds Great; even Noble. But; that is Not what is happening in far too many of the majority of most cases; Messianic (et al.) and Jewish (et al.). 1st thing right off the top – there is everything right with searching out the Hebrew Roots of our Faith and position in Yahshua. But – I for one; am not about to give up a bunch of Church error; only to embrace a bunch of Jewish error. Discernment is critical; whether to accept or reject any tradition issue.

Consider; The wearing of Kippas –

Ex 28:40 ¶ And for Aaron’s sons thou shalt make coats, and thou shalt make for them girdles, and bonnets <migba`ah> shalt thou make for them, for glory and for beauty.

04021 hebgm migba`ah, mig-baw-aw’ from the same as 1389; a cap (as *hemispherical*):–bonnet.

Kippas the *hemispherical* cap from Torah was to Aaron’s sons not even to all Levites – Therefore for the Jews (et al.) of the House of Judah (3 Tribes including the Gentile Messianic Jewish wanna-bees respective) to all wear Kippas is either ignored or unstudied error and is out of order and not keeping or obeying Torah.

The 613 Laws

The 613 Laws are upheld by Orthodox, Rabbinic & Messianic (et al.) alike; yet they are a ‘mix’ all the same. The 613 Lores are just that; did you ever bother to read them? Most of them are 2 and 4 way splits of an in common same verse. They are a contrive Rabbinic imagination concoction – mixed with some truth; want proof?

Law #195 and #196 – Maimonides 613 Law list

#195 Not to eat mixtures of milk and meat cooked together — Ex.23:19
#196 Not to cook meat and milk together — Ex.34:26

Ex.23:19 & Ex.34:26 are identically word for word the same verse –

Ex.23:19 & Ex.34:26 “The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of YHWH thy Elohim. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk.”
Compared to;
Gen.18:8 And he took *butter, and milk, and the calf* which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, *and they did eat*.

Note: Did you catch that? Butter, Milk and Beef ? Together ? – Didn’t Abraham have a handy 613 law list (Gen.26:5)? This is one of many anomalies in the Rabbinic 613 lores. (Law #195 and #196) – {Butter itself is a Milk by-product}

Gen.18:8 “And he took butter, and milk, and the calf ” is not the same as “Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his (specific) **mother’s** milk”. Ex. 23:19 – is Melchizedek Book of the Covenant Ex.19:5-24:8-11; That ‘Remains’ 2Cor.3:11. A calf cooked in its (specific) mother’s milk is not the same as Gen.18:8, #195 or #196.

Circumcision –

In all cases; Messianic (et al.) and Jewish (et al.) who circumcise today after Jos.5:2 think they are entering the covenant and being obedient to Gen.17 (Melkizedeq) – they are not; they are being obedient to Jos.5:2 (Levitical).

Jos 5:2 At that time YHWH said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the *second time*.

Jos.5:5 “Now all the people that came out were circumcised: but all the people that were born in the wilderness by the way as they came forth out of Egypt, them they had *not* circumcised.”

The issue is; There is no mention in Torah that the Israelites every stopped circumcision; let alone at Exodus 32. The 40yr lapse of circumcision comes into play at Exodus 32 by way of Jos.5:5 – This verse in Joshua indicates that at some point pursuant to leaving Egypt all the males were circumcised. The question is – What event between initially leaving Egypt at Ex.12 and the witness of Jos.5:5 would cause the Israelites to stop circumcising all their males? Let alone babies on the 8th day for the next 40+yrs? The compelling answer is the ‘Golden Calf’ covenant-breach of Ex.32 (Rom.2:25). They were only 3 months out of Egypt (Ex.19:1) and had just vowed to keep the Covenant at Ex.24:7-8 – which they broke (Jer.31:32) some 40 days later (a total of 4+months). The beginning point of their 40 plus years wilderness wandering. After the covenant break they knew there was no longer any point.

Rom.2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. – (The very Ex.32 point)

So; from Ex.32 to the rest of Torah (1st 5 Books of Moses) into Jos.5:2 is proof that the Gen.17 Melkizedeq physical circumcision and with it the covenants that it was the entrance token/sign for were broken. Forever separated by the 40yr lapse of circumcision -And- the need for the Jos.5:2 ‘2nd Command’ carried out under the Levitical priesthood (Heb.7:11-12). Note; the Melkizedeq Gen.12 everlasting oath of YHWH is still in force – not dependent on man or circumcision.

Day of Atonement

Lev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation to you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto YHWH.

Clearly no sacrifice/offering; by fire – is involved in modern Atonement proceedings – a clear Torah commandment break / instruction secession – You cannot pick and choose – (itself an enacted yet denied ‘CHANGE’!).

In addition – most modern Atonement/Yom Kippur observances include the addition of the ‘Kol Nidre’; a prayer specifically to dis-avow vows – in opposition to Torah (Num.30:2) specifically forbidden by Torah (Dt.4:2).

YHWH/Yahweh

Case in point; Most Rabbinic, Orthodox, Reform, Conservative, etc. Hebrew Roots, Messianic Jews/Israel, etc. alike recite the ‘Shama’ of Dt.6:4 and the Aaronic Blessing of Num.6 saying ‘Adonai Eloheynu’ – Adonai, Adonai; this and that Adonai. The problem is Moses did not write ‘Adonai Eloheynu’ at Dt.6:4; he wrote ‘YHWH Elohim’. Num.6:27 uses the dynamic of Hebrew literature; restating to stress the point “ …they shall put *my* name upon the children of Israel; and *I* will bless them”; That “Name” occurring four times (Num.6:22-27) is Yahweh. The third commandment Ex.20:7 of the Book of the Covenant (Ex.19:5-24:8) suffers similar abuse. So; believer you decide are we learning the words of Moses or replacements of the Rabbi’s? Point – Are we truly being ‘blessed’ by the disobedient as they disobey? However you feel about Nehemia Gordon (a Karaite Jew); he is correct of this assessment – the Rabbis have turned what is supposed to be ‘the Aaronic Blessing’ into an “Ironic blessing”’.

Very briefly the problem is this; ‘adonai’ is a legitimate Hebrew word, it does occur in scripture some 460 times. Near something upward to 1/3rd of those references refer to men; example – Abraham is called ‘adonai’ (Gen.23:6). The ‘tetragrammaton’ YHWH (Yahweh) occurs at or over 7,000 times. Do you see the problem? They (the Pharisaic / Rabbis) have taken the 5% to cover up the 95% – taking the legitimate (‘adonai’) and using it illegitimately. Like it or not, this is an example of twisting the Scripture; even worse using Scripture to cover and obscure Scripture. Further to manipulate and alter Scripture under the most astir and noble of pretence – Protecting His Name; – the problem is Yahweh never asks for His Name to be hidden or protected from His people. Quite the contrary; He commands that His Name ‘Yahweh’ be placed on His people – That we use His name with respect & caution, but that does not include ‘non-use’ – Thank you mister Rabbi, Pastor, Minister, Reverend, Assembly leader, etc. sir.

Gen.49:10

Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; …

Until is the awareness of impeding change that must also be fulfilled – that is flatly denied by the Jews (even though they have Rabbi Priests usurping the Levites; itself an un-lawful/un-scriptural change) – They deny that Messiah has come; if He has not come He has changed nothing – including the fact of Levite Priesthood authority which they (the Jews) simply disregard in favor of having Rabbis. On the other hand – Most Messianics (et al.) deny this change just the same. Oh; Yahshua did come -but- most Messianic say He changed nothing. Both exhibit a Levitical Priesthood mindset. What they imagine and affirm is one thing – what they do and apply is quite another (Mt.23:2-3).

Tzitzits

Tzitzits (Num.15:38) were to remind and attest to what? Commandment Keeping. Again most don’t realize and have never considered that ‘tzitzits’ by the witness of Jos.5:5 were given at Num.15:38 to an uncircumcising crowd of a large and growing (at the point of Jos.5:5 near total) uncircumcised male population. I realize the problems this presents; But there it is. Then there is the instruction for tzitzits/fringes Num.15:38 and Deut.22:12 – this does not include Rabbinic style Knots, Wraps, number of Knots, number of Wraps, with special (or otherwise) various contrived meanings – that have been added.

Deut 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of YHWH your Elohim which I command you.

That’s Not my own opinion – I like you did not write this – I have chosen to believe what it says exactly the way it says it – You and others are free to do otherwise and receive your reward (Isa 3:11, Isa 5:23).

There are those that raise the question about Yahshua wearing ‘tzitzits’ (Num.15:38); did He or didn’t He? I would have to agree, with little doubt that He did; perfectly not breaking any law. For He (Yahshua) was born as one under the (Levitical) ‘law’ (Lk.2:27/Gal.4:4). The same post Melchizedek Covenant breach (Ex.32) Levitical ‘law’ (Heb.7:11) that made Him (Yahshua) ineligible to ever be a Levitical priest (Heb.7:14). Includes the same Levitical circumcision Jos.5:2 ‘law’. Yet the ‘law’; that ‘(Levitical) law’ had to change (Heb.7:12/Gen.49:10) for Yahshua to become the Melchizedek High Priest. The same ‘law’ making Him (Yahshua) ineligible to be a Levitical priest also makes the majority of us ineligible to be a Levitical priest; for the same reason; Yahshua as are most of us are not from the tribe of Levi (Heb.7:13-14). Yet we are being called as priests into the Melchizedek Priesthood (Isa.61:6/1Pt.2:9); this would not be possible unless the ‘law’ did change (Heb.7:12) as prophesied (Gen.49:10).

Num 15:38 Speak <dabar> unto the children <ben> of Israel <Yisra’el>, and bid <‘amar> them that they make <`asah> them fringes <tsiytsith> in the borders <kanaph> of their garments <beged> throughout their generations <dowr>, and that they put <nathan> upon the fringe <tsiytsith> of the borders <kanaph> a ribband <pathiyl> of blue <t@keleth>:

This was all under the Levitical Priesthood (post Ex.32) – ‘for under it the people received the law’ (Heb.7:11)

Did Yahshua wear tzitzits? – I believe that He did; for He was born as one under the law (Gal.4:4). The same law that made Him ineligible to ever be a Levitical Priest (Heb.7:13-14).

Yahshua is our High Priest after the order of Melkizedeq; therefore the law had to ‘change’ (Gen.49:10; Heb.7:11-14)

During an Orthodox Funeral – the tzitzit of the deceased are cut off; for they know that upon death you are no longer under the law (Rom.7:1).

Is it just me; but aren’t we that believe and claim Yahshua baptized into His ‘death’ (Rom.6:3)?

Most just simply point to such scriptures such as;

Jos 1:8 “This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

And have no realization that this as well as other scripture between Ex.32:10 and Jos.5:2 by the witness of Jos.5:5 were given to an increasingly and later a mostly – near total uncircumcised crowd.

… that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein…

This was given to a specific post Covenant breach (Ex.32:10 / Num.3:12) Israelite group – Today you cannot banner such insisting ‘nothing has changed’ and then not do it? Exactly as stated – by Jms 2:10 every bit of it – for that is two-faced hypocrisy.

Jms 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

Like – Do you have a fence on your roof?
Do you animal sacrifice?
BY fire?
Do you drink, grain, fat, flour, etc. sacrifice?
Do you go to your local Levite Priest to find answers too hard for you?
Do you animal sacrifice morning and evening for Shabbat? – Etc.

You know you don’t! To defend and say ‘I keep the law’ – You can’t pick & choose – that’s the point! If you say well there is no Temple – we can’t. ??? – Where exactly is that proviso in Torah?

Do you wear kippas meant for Aaron’s Sons?
Do you defer to Rabbis over Torah?
Do you say Adonai instead of YHWH that Moses wrote?
Do you recite prayers ascribing YHWH commanded this or that? When He did not.
Do you keep Jewish Feastdays – the way that Jews describe them?
Over Yah’s Feastdays the way that Yah’s Torah describes them? – Etc.

Most do – Not even considering that these (and more) are all additions prohibited by Dt.4:2 & 12:32

Ezk 20:24 Because they (Ex.32) had not executed my (Melkizedeq) judgments, but had despised my (Melkizedeq) statutes, and had polluted my (Melkizedeq) sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers’ idols.
Ezk 20:25 Wherefore I gave them *also* (Levitical) statutes that were not good, and (Levitical) judgments whereby they should not live;

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the (Levitical) law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed (from Levitical back to Melkizedeq), there is made of necessity a *change* also of the law (from Levitical law back to Melkizedeq law).

Gal 2:21 “… for if righteousness comes through the (Levitical) law, then Messiah died in vain.”

Or you can repent of ‘I keep the (Levitical) law’ realizing that you can’t; agree and accept that ‘until’ did mean change through Yahshua Messiah and with that back to the Melkizedeq law of Torah without the Levitical ‘not good’ additions.

PS – The Melkizedeq law of Torah – Basically found from Gen.1:1 to Ex.24:11 (this is Torah too) – without the ‘not good’ Levitical additions.

This by no means is a complete list – If you want to be a ‘berean’ (Acts 17:11) and study this out – You’ll want to get my books – ‘The Covenants of Promise’  -and-  ‘Back to the Melchizedek Future’

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16 thoughts on “To You who Say

  1. Why do Messianics spend most of their time on the First Covenant?
    Why are Rabbis Jesus Christ and Paul not the very center of focus, continually, in teachings?
    I have just realized that their office sets me free from all other Rabbis, and I have lost interest in all others who value other’s opinions, traditions. and teachings over GOD’S CHOSEN ( proven by signs and miracles ).

    • It is a Levitical mindset

      There are no ‘Js’ in Hebrew, Greek or even English til the 1600’s

      I would incourage you to use Yahshua’s Name and the Name of Elohim – YHWH / Yahweh

      • Well, this last Saturday I realized that there is no confusion as to which of the many Rabbi opinions to follow. I just need the Bible, and since I am English speaking I don’t have to speak Hebrew—I can find Hebrew words in the Strong’s. Paul and Christ are my Rabbis—-God called them. Some of your articles are right on , but the Judaism is intolerable. I fear for you and would rescue you if you would listen. I warn you in love that you have fallen for heresies that Paul warned us of already. God help you.

    • Judaism, I have experienced, is the mountains of extra-Biblical jargon, traditions, religious trappings and errors /heresies that keep children, and sincere believers in a wise and intelligent God (who communicates very well HIS thoughts) from HIM by filling the conversations with trinkets, “secret” sayings from mere men, and multitudes of men’s words—never ending— covering only part of God’s revelations HE meant for all. All their words could fill the universe with a void, and what they offer is a partial Gospel, partial TRUTH (which is lying at its worst), partial Bible, partial hope, and NO PEACE!!!
      These sellers of the unique and tantalizing distract many precious lovers of Israel and Jesus Christ from TRUTH in simplicity, and confuse the life right out of them as they try to combine TRUTH of the Bible with heresies from men—though the men have names/titles/positions that should be connected with Scripture only. WHEN WILL THE JEWS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS EVER BELIEVE AND OBEY ALL GOD HAS SAID INSTEAD OF TREATING THE NT AS IF IT IS BURGER KING AND THEY CAN HAVE IT CHOPPED UP AND THE “MAYO” SIMPLY LEFT OUT???
      THE JEWS SUFFER RIGHT NOW WITH THEIR BURGER KING CHOICES—WILL YOU PERPETUATE THESE LIES MORE AND HURT MORE OF HIS PRECIOUS PEOPLE?
      YOU TEACH AND WILL BE MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN OTHERS FOR THE TORAH LIMITATIONS AND JUDAISM YOU PROMOTE—THOUGH YOU BELIEVE YOUR TEACHINGS ARE PURE.
      THEY ARE DEFILED WITH RABBINIC TRADITIONS AND VOID OF GOD AND HIS PURE GOSPEL.
      “Indecipherable”?—-more words to confuse. You have all the intellect you need! Now–the heart…

    • Doctor,
      With all due respect for your years of study and titles, what ever they are, I must just say that all you need do is re-read the New Covenant with an honest and seeking heart and the whole world of your complete God would be revealed. The ditches are deep on both sides and God’s people are dying for THE WHOLE TRUTH.
      Not too long ago I was confronted with a man who has taken your stand–Burger King.
      I began to study Scripture in Paul’s Epistles because I knew that there were warnings about the Last Days in them. As I studied, there were warnings God had never applied in my heart, or consciousness, to Messianics–truly. I had thought that MESSIANICS were exempt from the awful heresies, anti-Christ, and blasphemous pitfalls others would be guilty of.
      TO MY SHOCK, HORROR, AND SADNESS, I found the asleep and deceived “church” in these warnings, AND I FOUND THE MESSIANICS THERE TOO. BOTH DITCHES ARE FROM THE EXACT SAME CAUSE—HERESIES, ANTI CHRIST DOCTRINES, AND BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT (DENYING, DELETING, AND DISRESPECTING HIM) DUE TO BURGER KING CHOICES OF SCRIPTURE. I HAVE DECIDED TO START ATTENDING BURGER KING ON BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY’S SO I MIGHT POSSIBLY INVEST MY TIME MORE WISELY.
      THE DITCH DIGGER AND RESCUE IS IN THE NT FOR ANYONE WHO WILL RISK TRUTH.
      IN MUCH LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR YOUR LIFE,
      ALI

  2. Good article. Both the so called messiaic jews and also the Catholics have leaders, Popes & Cardnals, or Rabbis, that all wear beanies and like to make themselves out as if they were Gods gift to humanity, taking it upon themselves to pretend to speak for Yahweh but twist the scriptures and missaplly Yahwehs laws, and even all of them wearing freaking beanies covering their heads when the scriptures clearly teach it is a shame for a man to cover his head during religious service, and no man should be called Rabbi, or Father like those two miusguided religions both fail to realize. And of course the reason for that instruction for men not to cover their head in religious service is to symbolically show us our men in religious services should not be covering or hiding Jesus Christ, for scriptures clearly say that Christ is the head of a man, and the man is the head of the woman.

      • Agreed?
        Yes, in some ways you sound Scriptural (ALL THE MORE CONFUSING TO IGNORANT SEEKERS—SHAME ON ALL WHO FLEECE THE SHEEP!!!!!!), but how can you insist on police-ing other’s languages (legalistic, judaistic, sickening religious outward rules of men—JAH, etc.) that make people want “to belong” to a group, even if they don’t know scripture well enough to reject that heresy—Gen.11 ?
        Doctor, why would you offer Levitical advice and religious trinkets to anyone if you believed in this Jesus Christ you talk about? HE REJECTED THE TRAPPINGS OF RELIGION TO ENTER LIVES AND HEARTS—-GIVE LIFE AND NOT OUTWARD “PIETY”.
        Since our chats started, I have been praying much for you, myself, and the other perveyors of torah, and the like. I refute these movements: bowing myself to the whole of scripture, and to Christ my TRUTH. A little insight received: Torah is about 1/6th of full TRUTH. God sent His “WORD TO HEAL US”. How can the people out there you reach be healed /taught well without 6/6th’s TRUTH???
        I have found that in both ditches inconvenient Scriptures are left out and others are ridden into the ground to get a following.
        GOD GRANT HONESTY TO US ALL, AND HUMILITY TO BOW BEFORE THE FULFILLMENT OF HIS WHOLE WORD—JESUS CHRIST, OUR ALL AND IN ALL.

    • IN MY CHAT (letter), I WAS NOT JUST REFERRING TO CATHOLICS AND MESSIANICS. I WAS REFERRING TO MAIN-LINE PROTESTANT RELIGIONS AS WELL. WE HAVE DISCOUNTED SCORES OF SCRIPTURE AS IRRELEVANT ACCORDING TO WHAT OUR PARTICULAR DENOMINATIONAL
      THEOLOGIANS HAVE TOLD US IS “TRUTH”—-THEIR OPINIONS OF WHAT TRUTH IS. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOUR CHURCH (OF ANY KIND) HAD THE ROOF TAKEN OFF TO LET THE SICK DOWN FOR HEALING???
      THESE ARE THE LAST DAYS AND GOD DOESN’T HAVE A PEOPLE SOLD OUT TO HIS WHOLE WORD ENOUGH TO SHOW HIM TO THE WORLD. HE WILL THOUGH, AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL HAPPEN IN THE ONE NEW MAN.
      HE HASN’T SHOWN ME WHAT THEY WILL DO (WORKS), BUT WHO THEY WILL BE IN HEART AND PRACTICE. i YEARN TO MEET MY TRUE SISTERS AND BROTHERS.

  3. There are no ‘Js’ in Hebrew, Greek or even English til the 1600′s

    I would incourage you to use Yahshua’s Name and the Name of Elohim – YHWH / Yahweh

    Be honest and do the research – Don’t just give your opinion – or use all capitals

    Volume will never make a lie a truth!

    Prejudice is ignorant contempt prior to investigation – Arrogance is ignorant contempt in lieu of investigation

    • I HAVE NO VOLUME OR DESIRE FOR RECOGNITION.
      I AM A PROTESTANT TO ALL THAT IS HERESY IN OUR DAY.
      I HAVE LIVED IN THESE HERESIES AND INVESTIGATED THEM FROM THE INSIDE—THIS IS LEARNED JUDGMENT AND NOT PREJUDICE.
      HAVE I BECOME YOUR ENEMY BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH?
      AGAIN, I DO NOT NEED TO SPEAK GREEK OR HEBREW TO WALK CLOSELY WITH GOD. WE HAVE AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP—NOT A HEBREW CLASS.
      CAN I CHOOSE TO WRITE IN UPPERCASE LETTERS WITHOUT YOU TAKING AN OFFENSE?
      AM I NOT FREE TO SPEAK ENGLISH ANY WAY I CHOOSE-AT LEAST FOR NOW?
      I AM WARNING YOU THAT YOU ARE IN ERROR BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT ALL PEOPLES AND DON’T WANT YOU TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR HERESIES BEING TAUGHT TO OTHERS.
      THIS IS BAD?

  4. Ali you do not understand basic language – Your name Ali – is Ali in all languages – The Hebrew names carry over to all languages – This why Yah (Ps.68:4) in Hallelu-Yah is proof of that fact

    • Dear, dear, Doctor Dave,
      Ali is a nickname, and surely you know that given names are translated differently in Spanish and other languages. You can call God any name you wish to. Cool. But if you religiously police others to call their Daddy by names you believe are the only correct ones, this is peer pressure and is not from God. This is heresy, and it is spiritually abusive to new and uninformed believers. I have proclaimed, declared, and warned you with wisdom from the NT, and you respond with a critique of my language understanding….that is the problem, it is all in the head, and not in relating to the ONE you think is called by only a few names.

      If you were not privileged to have experienced the Biblical, pure, simple (so that children understood it and thrived), loving, vibrant TRUE Messianic Movement, pre-1980’s, then you would not realize that the stuff you follow now is the new guy on the block, and happens to be worthy of all the NT warnings by Paul of endtime extra-Biblical, and anti-whole-Bible heresies.

      Watchmen can only warn, and leave their heartbreaks with God.
      If you only knew the love and security of God, you would NEVER try to merely convince others of what to call HIM. You would want them to know HIM as Daddy, and not have to call HIM anything—there is just a knowing.

      I will obey my Rabbi, Paul, and avoid you from now on.
      If you only knew how much you are loved by Jesus Christ, you would drop all else to be enveloped in HIM—–THE FULFILLMENT OF THE WHOLE BIBLE.

    • Tower of Babble…. Is the problem ….. Welcome the obvious Ali. We are still “Babbies” -Baby- Babies- Babylonian- as a sentence or phrase we use this HEBREW word in English – we’ve seen it in the “New Testament ” “don’t go on Babbling on like the pagans do…” Do a simple study on it. Confusion . Case in point: when Babies try to talk … It’s to the very core of the word. We DO need to get back to basics of the thing that wasn’t confusing.

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