A Circumcized Truth
Jos 5:5 Now all the people that came out were circumcised: but all the people that were born in the wilderness by the way as they came forth out of Egypt (Ex.32 till Jos.5:5), them they had not circumcised.
The Israelites ratified the Book of the Covenant 3 months after leaving Egypt (Ex.19:1). They broke that same Covenant 40 days later (Ex.32:1) – what is not popularly understood is that after said ‘break’ the Israelites stopped circumcising their new born males – By the time of Jos.5:5 this is over 40 years!
The thing about a truth is it usually exposes an error, a lie, a series of errors or a series of lies – or the combination of the foregoing.
Jos 5:2 At that time YHWH said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time.
This is well after the ‘Golden Calf’ breach of Ex.32 – Well after the demotion from the Melchizedek Priesthood (Ex.19:5-6) to the Levitical Priesthood (Ex.40:13-15, Num.3:12).
Jos.5:2 says that this was a 2nd command to circumcise – after a 40 year lapse identified at Jos 5:5. The very 1st command is clearly Gen.17.
Gen 17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
Rom 2:25 … : but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
This is Paul’s argument – the Israelites did break the Covenant at Ex.32:1
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith YHWH:
This is YHWH’s indictment – the Israelites did break the Covenant at Ex.32:1
Circumcision no longer had the Covenant significance from Gen.17 and the Exodus Israelites knew that point.
Gen.17 – Melchizedek; clearly *before the Ex.32 Covenant break. Jos.5:2 – Levitical; clearly *after the Ex.32 Covenant break.
The point most do not consider is that today (and as far back as Jos.5:2 & :5) the Jews and those Messianic that identify with them are not circumcising in obedience to Gen.17 but to Jos.5:2. The 40 year lapse forever separates the 2.
The Book of the Covenant (Ex.19:5-24:8) was the ‘Answer’ to the Abraham ‘Promise’ (Gen.15). The Israelites broke that ‘Answer’; now the ‘Promise’ had no ‘Answer’. You cannot break a 430yr removed ‘Answer’ without breaking the ‘Promise’ itself. Gen.17 (in between Gen.15 and Ex.19) ‘Circumcision’ was also a causality of that process.
DrDave – are you saying the Abraham ‘Promise’ of Gen.15 is broken? Yes! Gen.15 held the ‘death position’ for the breaking of covenant (passing between the pieces) that was (accepted by and) exacted on Yahshua at the stake/cross. Would you accept that kind of execution torture for the breaking of covenant if that covenant had not been broken? That is what the drama of Mt.26:39; 42 is all about. He knew He was to be tortured and look like those halved animals. But all is not lost we still have and YHWH operates from the Gen.12 ‘oath’ (Heb.6:13).
Gen.12 ‘oath’ – Circumcision not required!
Gal 5:11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased (?)
This is Paul’s rhetorical question.
There is a lot to consider on ‘Circumcision’. It is discussed at length in my new book ‘Back to the Melchizedek Future.