Noachide Laws

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Noachide Laws

This is the 2007 eMail exchange I had with Avi Ben Mordechai on the Noachide Law.

From: David Perry [mailto:xxxxxx@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:36 PM
To: xxxxxx@aol.com
Subject: God Fearers

Shalom Avi – Question – According to Yahshua

Mt 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

“According to Rabbinic tradition, a bona fide conversion demands that potential converts renounce their previous faith completely”

Do you think that this “twofold more the child of hell” verbiage has to do with accepting a ‘God Fearer’ position of lesser responsibility?

In light of;

Mt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Thankyou in advance … David Perry

“Avi (M7000)” <xxxxx@m7000.com> wrote:

David. Shalom.
I’m not exactly sure what you are referring to. Sorry. Can you be more specific, please?

Avi

From: David Perry [xxxxx@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:15 PM
To: xxxxx@m7000.com
Subject: RE: God Fearers

Shalom Avi
My understanding is that Noahide laws are 7 laws for non-Jews. That the only place you find ‘Noah law ‘ is Talmud. Mt.5:20 + Mt.23:15 is almost like a math problem on the minus side of the number scale -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, … If in Messiah’s tho’t the Pharsee’s weren’t even on the + side (Mt 5:20) and if the Pharisee’s were teaching a lesser compliance to ‘proselytes’ (foreigners) … this ‘7 laws for non-Jews’, ‘lesser compliance ‘ is logically further down the – minus Side making these ‘proselytes’ (foreigners) ‘Gentile God Feares’ .. (current modern day Christians) that buy into this ‘Naochide Law’ lesser responsibility (less than pharisees) “twofold more the child of hell than yourselves” Mt 23:15

“Avi (M7000)” <xxxxx@m7000.com> wrote:

“Wow David. You know, this is really something very interesting and, might I say, logical reasoning. According to the overall context of Matt 5 (and other places as well) Pharisaic (and Rabbinic) rulers were the political and religious “kings” of the day. Their ideas were pressed into service amidst the general populace. The name of the game was (and still is today): Authority and Control, period. Whether it’s the so-called “seven Noahide laws” or Rabbinic Halacha, the same basic principal was still very much in force: authority and control over religion and politics in Israel. In any case, you do have an excellent point that mathematically makes sense on an X-Y grid. It makes sense on an overall theological level. Thanks for sharing this with me.”

Avi

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