The purveyors of such do not care about His Name, His Covenant or His Word – Still this information is quite sobering
The purveyors of such do not care about His Name, His Covenant or His Word – Still this information is quite sobering
Why; with all the truth-seekers; seeking truth – among all the ‘Truth’ purveyors (Christian, Messianic and even Jewish) claiming to have ‘the Truth’ is there so much opposition to the ‘Truth’? And at times not just; ~opposition to~ but vicious, mean-spirited not content to just vandalize the message but malign and verbally violence the messenger as well.
As if that would change the Truth?
I say this realizing that – In a sea of sacred errors and religious lies; Truth is Treason. This statement only leaves 1 conclusion that the ‘Truth’ these purveyors are protecting and pushing is not Yah’s pure Truth at all. Does not account-for/Fully-Account-For all that Yah has said in His Word-Torah.
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident”. – Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788-1860)
“It ain’t what we don’t know that gets us into trouble. It’s what we know for sure – that just ain’t so”. – – Mark Twain, American author, lecturer and humorist (1835-1910)
This is what we are to do;
Mt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of Yah, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
This is what we are seeing more of
2Ptr 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they **understand not**; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they *know not*: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
These 1’s make sweeping broad-bush rapid fire statements sighting very little if any Bible. If they site Bible at all, they will usually give you their personal stylized remix of what they think the Bible said; complete with convoluted commentary. While ignoring what the Bible actually says that doesn’t fit their theology. This is neither accurate or honest. With a kind of; Ready!~Fire!~Aim, mentality.
They love uncontested pontification complete with no response or opportunity for – this works well if all you are interested in is appearing to be right – That is why they call it ‘pontification’ the Catholics are notorious for this technique. This is exactly what they seek, formulate & are drawn to. A type of ‘slanted journalizm'; weighted to the ‘house’ – Patting each other on the back with a ‘we’re right just ask us’ mentality. The Bible says they are not wise (1Cor.10:12 / 2Cor.10:12).
Searching for Truth requires Effort – Accepting Truth requires Humility – Teaching Truth requires Knowledge – Defending Truth requires Heart- Living Truth requires Dedication – Standing for Truth requires Courage – Standing in Truth requires Wisdom and the Calm Resolve in the Torah of Yahweh.
Discernment is not simply differentiating between right and wrong; but includes discerning to know the difference between right and almost right. (Adapted from ~ C.H. Spurgeon)
“The ultimate ignorance is the blind opinion charged rejection of any issue; coupled with the arrogant absence of correct knowledge which refuses to investigate what is known little or nothing about” – Dr. David L. Perry Th.D.
If this article doesn’t mean much to you; in that you can’t relate – you are probably somewhere mid-pack of the go-along-to-get-along crowd or maybe even leading it – who are happy with their ‘mixed’ message – happy with their ~error coated truth-sicle with the rainbow lie sprinkles on top~. I would highly encourage you to test everything – especially what you know you know along with what you love about what you know, but have never tested yourself before. This journey will take effort – Prayer, Study, Research, Consideration, Deliberation and some Repenting – But it is rewarding. Some good verses to start with are: Mt.6:33, Mt.7:13-23, Rom.10:2-3, Acts 15:19-21, Acts 17:11, (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)~1Jn.2:3-5 (&:6), Heb.4:2, Heb.7:11-12, 1Ptr.2:9; realizing it doesn’t stop there!
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Most Rabbinic, Orthodox, Reform, Conservative, Karaite, Messianic, Quasi-Messianic Church Groups (et. al) to Anti-Missionaries defend that the Torah (1st 5 Books of Moses) is the Torah and cannot be divided or changed. This is a point well taken for I too uphold the Torah (1st 5 Books of Moses) is the Torah and cannot be divided or changed.
The problem becomes that I and a growing host of others assert and have determined to let Torah say; what Torah says; the way Torah says it.
That necessarily means to accept ‘Change’ already prepackaged (pre-written in) by YHWH in the pages of the unChangable Torah. And not only that but the evidences of change made by YHWH for Israel’s Covenant Break disobedience. And it does not stop there; for Jos.5:5 evidences an unwritten change in Torah as well (Prv.25:2) that also started at the point of Israel’s Covenant Break disobedience of Ex.32.
These ‘prepackaged’ changes include;
Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, **until** Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
This is the premier alert/awareness of coming/future from Torah impending ‘Change’ brought with the coming of Yahshua Messiah ie ‘Shiloh’ evidenced in the New Testament/New Covenant at such places as; Jer.31:31-33; Mat.5:17-18, Gal.3:19; 4:4, Heb.7:11-12; 8:8-10; 9:10, etc.
Num 3:12 And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel **instead** of all the firstborn that openeth the matrix among the children of Israel: therefore the Levites shall be mine;
Now put on your thinking caps; What gave YHWH the right to change the Covenant? What gave YHWH the right to change the deal? What could have happened so bad as to implement this ‘Change’?
It was Israel’s Covenant Break disobedience of Ex.32. YHWH’s 1st choice to remedy Israel’s breach was to wipe them all out! Annihilate ALL Israel and start over with Moses (Ex.32:10). This included Aaron (who made the Gold Calf then lied about it) AND his son’s. What in All of Torah could be worse?
They ALL lost their Melkizedeq standing – They All almost lost their lives – They All were remanded to a Levitical Priesthood – A huge difference in being a nation ‘of’ priests and a nation ‘with’ priests.
YHWH does Not have to honor a broken Covenant – Especially 1 that came with a ‘prepackaged’ agreed to proviso (Ex.19:5-6) in the word ‘if’.
Now we come to Jos.5:5;
Jos 5:5 Now all the people that came out were circumcised: but all the people that were born in the wilderness by the way as they came forth out of Egypt, them they had **not** circumcised.
Again; put on your thinking caps; this says – ‘all the people that came out (of Egypt) were circumcised’, that would be Ex.12 right? BUT – ‘all the people that were born in the wilderness by the way (in the Sinai desert) as they came forth out of Egypt, them they had NOT circumcised’.
Again; What happened that would cause the Israelites to stop circumcising (the premier Covenant ‘sign’) their 8 day old infant sons? And realize that at the point of Jos 5:5 it had been in excess of 40yrs.
So what happened 40yrs earlier that would make this situation so?
It was none other than the same Israel Covenant Break disobedience of Ex.32. Think about it they had just broken the Covenant, the very 1 they were to circumcise for. Now circumcision the Covenant sign had no Covenant to be the sign for. This is Paul’s very point at;
Rom 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
The 1st – Gen.17 was the Melkizedeq circumcision command – But the Ex.19:5-24:8 Book of the Covenant had been broken; no wonder YHWH wanted to completely annihilate Israel! And this WITH a 40yr. un-circumcision lapse moratorium suspension – This gave rise for the necessity of;
Jos 5:2 At that time YHWH said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the **second time**.
This is the 2nd circumcision command; under the Levitical Priesthood (40yrs after Ex.32)
Heb 7:11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (**for under it the people received the law**,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Among us here today are certain individuals that have been lead to & are convinced that being physically circumcised is Covenant obedience to Gen.17 and necessary to be in Covenant. But what they are not being taught and do not realize is that their obedience is actually to Jos.5:2 under the Levitical Priesthood. – Yes we all are to be circumcised – in the Heart this is Melkizedeq and always has been.
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Change; a reversion back to the original – Remember Abraham got the promise while un-circumcised
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To The Rob & Caleb Show
You have been very flagrant and inflammatory towards me personally and my findings – You admitted on air that you had not read but about a 1/4 of 1 book and none of the other and who knows what if any research time you yourselves put in. I would expect fairly close to zero – then you presume to rant and malign my work based on what? – relying instead on what you think you know and your trusted friend D. Wilber? You never mentioned actually speaking to me or asking me anything – An uncontested pontification complete with no response or opportunity for – works well if all you are interested in is appearing to be right – That is why they call it ‘pontification’ the Catholics are notorious for this technique. This is exactly what you have done. A type of ‘slanted journalizm'; weighted to the ‘house’ – you 2, D. Wilber and friends. Patting each other on the back with a ‘we’re right just ask us’ mentality. At the least you owe me a public apology; even if I am wrong – All the more if I am proven right. The Bible says you are not wise (1Cor.10:12 / 2Cor.10:12).
That’s the thing about absolute statements – They are rarely absolute
Besides all that your Rob & Caleb slander ‘show’ is now the 3rd generation of this contest – with D. Wilber (the 2nd generation) interjecting himself being Jim (the original 1st generation) Staley’s straw-man with nothing more coming from PFT further on the subject. Silence – Crickets ??? Why??? Its as if Jim put D. Wilber out there (a kind of talking Mr. Ed) – run it up the flag pole and see which way it waves – Then you use 3rd party hearsay stuff without even having D. Wilber or Jim Staley let alone me there. Did not give me a voice – this is Not evidence in anyones kangaroo court!
The Bible says; Acts 17:11 to – … receive the word with all readiness of mind, and search the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
You did Not demonstrate ‘all readiness of mind’ – What you demonstrated was a closed already made up mind – and how many ‘daily’ days did you (any of you) pour over scripture and prayer? To determine ‘whether those things were so’?
At the end of the day; I am nothing – a sinner saved by grace – It’s His Word NOT yours or mine – If I am proven to be speaking Yah’s Word backed up by Yah’s Word then you are not rejecting me but Yahweh. You are not discrediting me but Yahweh. I certainly cannot do any more than Yah has already done in His Word; left you evidence. (Prv.25:2)
All I can do is lead you to evidence – You will have to supply the honesty and considered thought. (Isa.1:18)
If I have made an even-handed appeal – Should you both reconsider your position with open tolerance – I will discuss the considered findings of my books & research with ideally Jim Staley – or even in 2nd place; D. Wilber – But there will be guidelines
Rules of Engagement
Since all communication is based on a shared oration and perceptions –
In other words; what is said & what is heard; based on shared meaning
And since you are questioning my books, findings and perception of Scripture –
I will ask you to put into your own words what it is you think I have said.
Otherwise I risk being talked over or we wind up talking past each other
Which is a waste of both our time
This while bearing 2 points in mind
1] Keep it Bible
2] Stay on Topic
DrDave – TorahWithoutRabbinic
Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto Yah and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of Yah.
Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of YHWH, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Yahweh Elohim Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Note! – “being the firstfruits unto Yah and to the Lamb” – ‘unto Yah/YHWH/Yahweh’ the King ie Melek – and to the Lamb; Yahshua – YHWH’s Son and Melkizedeq High Priest – Firstfruits; in His ‘royal’ – kingly; Priesthood ie Yah’s Melek = Melkizedeq Priesthood (1Ptr.2:9) in His Kingdom ie Malakah.
Also Notice – they will be singing ‘the song of Moses’ …, and ‘the song of the Lamb’. Why? There is a very Melkizedeq reason why! – Both Moses and Yahshua are the respective Melkizedeq mediators of their respective Melkizedeq covenants. Moses for the original Sinai Book of the Covenant of Ex.19:5 thru 24:8-11 and Yahshua for the New Covenant of Jer.31:31-33/Heb.8:8-10/Lk.22:20 …
Also Notice – “Yahweh Elohim Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.” – ‘King of saints’ – again ‘King’ ie Melek of the ‘saints’ or Set-Apart or Righteous ie Zedeq = Melkizedeq.
Some including so-called scholars say the 144,000 are Jews and will not include us (non-Jews); but read what Rev.7:4-8 says – 12,000 from every Tribe – including 12,000 the Tribe of Joseph – They evidently do not read or understand that we have an interesting panorama; of the pronouncements of the 12 sons of Israel; Judah was given Kingship (Gen.49:8-10), Levi (through Aaron) was ultimately given the office of the Levitical Priesthood (Ex.40:13-15), Joseph was given the ‘double portion’ by the ‘headship-birthright’ and Ephraim (of an Egyptain Mother – along with Manasseh was adopted as a full Sons), given family dominance of that ‘headship-birthright’ was Blessed as the <malo gowy> or “fullness of the Gentiles” (Gen.48:11-22).
The “fullness of the Gentiles” (Rom.11:25) unmistakably is then of the pre-split 12 Tribe Family/House of Israel, and therefore lends itself heavily to the verification of the so-called “Two House Theory”, pointing to a post-mended 12 Tribe Family/House of Israel. [Note: If you follow the lineage of the Risen Messiah; through such ones as Tamar and Judah, Naomi, Ruth and Boaz, Rahab, Jesse, King David and Bathsheba, etc; you will find they have all come together in such a way that Yahshua is the legitimate heir and embodiment of: the ‘Birthright- Headship’, the ‘Kingship’ and the Melchizedek ‘Priestship’ (Ps.110:4, Heb.5:6,10)]. Clearly this embodies the Family ‘Birthright- Headship’ to include the returning Ephriamite, the repentant ‘gowy`em’, the repentant from both the ‘House of Israel and the House of Judah, the national Israelite ‘Kingship’, the universal Spiritual Melchizedek ‘Priesthood’ and all this besides being and embodying the position of Yahshua Melchizedek High Priest ‘Mediator of the Covenant’ (Heb 8:6, 9:15, 12:24).
The Church having a different agenda not tending or wishing to identify with anything deemed ‘Jewish’ is nonetheless not the only one with a vested interest to not ‘teach’ which is to effectively denounce this birthright heritage. It becomes logically apparent that those of Judah not limited to but specifically Messianic Judah (as New Testament Believers) demonstrate a reluctant sense of acceptance based on an assumed vacated hence undisputed dominance role they (identifying with Orthodox Jewry) have enjoyed for centuries; now having to be shared with, even relinquished to the returning legitimate ‘headship’ heir of returning ‘Ephraimites’ through the ‘birthright’ blessing pronounced by Father Jacob/Israel on Ephraim.
All of this pronounced and/or prophesied under the Original Melchizedek Priesthood (Gen.1:1 thru Ex.24:8-11) – *Gen.49:10*, Mt.5:17-18, Gal.3:19, Heb.7:11-12 ie ‘CHANGE’.
Clearly to those with eyes to see – It is Not a ‘change’ *of* Torah to enact the ‘change’ *in* Torah that has always been right there *in* the pages of Torah – That must be fulfilled at His 1st coming also.
Oh – You who yearn for the ‘One New Man’ – Know that ‘One New Man’ is impossible without losing the Levitical Mindset that includes Levitical Laws (Acts 15:10/Heb.7:12) and Rabbinic thru Anti-Missoinary versions (which are counterfeits) – Embracing Melkizedeq ‘change’ (reverting back to the original), Embracing your role in the Melchizedek Priesthood, Embracing the Melkizedeq Covenant and discerning what that means.
Put on your Big Boy and Big Girl pants – Now the Melkizedeq work begins!
Jim Staley does a really good job of laying out the paganism behind Xmas
Even so you can hear him say – ‘We want to worship [Yah] in our own way’ – video elapse time 48:02
See – Spiritual Warfare
Well isn’t that true of His current stance on the Melkizedeq Priesthood? He will do everything but face the fact – We have YHWH the King ie Melek – Ruling in His Kingdom ie Malakah with Yahshua His son as Melkizedeq Cohen Gadol ie Melkizedeq High Priest – With all of us as current 1st Fruit Believers being ‘called’ (1Ptr.2:9) back into (Heb.7:12) the original (Ex.19:5-6) Melkizedeq Priesthood.
See – Mt.6:33 & Rom.10:2-3
Maybe we should have a similar site called -
“Saving Jim from the Levitical Mindset”