Hesperia Calif. Sukkot Flier

Hesperia Calif. Sukkot Flier

You can access – ATC

http://torahwithoutrabbinics.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/atc.pdf

Appointed Time Ministry Presents
The Feast of Tabernacle
Arthur Bailey will be with us Oct 12th thru Oct 15th
Internationally known Dr. Arthur Bailey, apostle and modern day prophet is an anointed teacher, preacher, and author. Arthur Bailey’s
ministries span the continents of Africa, Asia and North America. With a focus on spirit filled living. Arthur Bailey operates in Gifts of the
Spirit, including Prophecy, Healing, Miracles.
Keith Johnson will be with us Oct 16 thru Oct 19
Keith Johnson earned his Masters of Divinity from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois and has spent more than two decades in
full-time ministry. He is the former chaplain for the Minnesota Vikings and he served the international community of athletes at the 1996
Olympic Games in Atlanta. Keith is the founder of Biblical Foundations Academy and is co-author of A Prayer to Our Father: Hebrew
Origins of the Lord’s Prayer.
Nehemia Gordon will be with us Oct 16th thru Oct 19th
Nehemia Gordon holds a Masters Degree in Biblical Studies and a Bachelors Degree in Archaeology from the Hebrew University of
Jerusalem. He has worked as a translator on the Dead Sea Scrolls and as a researcher deciphering ancient Hebrew manuscripts. A
prominent figure in the Karaite Jewish community, Gordon has written two popular books on the Hebrew origins of Christianity and is
active in interfaith dialogue.
Tentative Agenda Subject to Change as time gets closer
Friday Oct 10 : Evangelist Steven Aguilar & Silvia Aguilar Appointed Time Ministry @ 7:00 P.M.
Saturday Oct 11 : Dr. David Perry @!10:00 A.M. / Evangelist : Ray Cordova Water To The Desert Ministry @ 2:00 P.M.
Evangelist : Able Razo Curbside Community Center @ 5:00 P.M. / Pastor : David Salinas Ministry / Psalmist @ 7:00 P.M.
Sunday Oct 12 : Ray Cordova @ 10:00 AM. / Pastor Tommy Hinojos @ 2:00 P.M. / Arthur Bailey @ 6:00 P.M.
Monday Oct 13 : Apostle Ken Kerr @10:00 A.M. / Pastor: John Williams @ 2:00 P.M. / Dr. David Perry @ 4:00 P.M. / Arthur Bailey @ 7:00 P.M
Tuesday Oct 14 : Apostle Ken Kerr @10:00 A.M / Arthur Bailey @ 12:00 P.M. / Lunch-In Pastors & Leadership, Question and Answers / Arthur Bailey
@ 7:00 P.M.
Wednesday Oct 15 : Dr. David Perry @ 10:00 A.M. / Arthur Bailey @ 1:00 P.M.
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If you can help, or volunteer in any capacity to make this community event a
success please call or e-mail us @ appointedtimecenters@yahoo.com or
Contact Steve Aguilar (760) 559-2468 Location: I Ave & Mesa St Hesperia CA

You can access - ATC

Reward of Offerings & Donations

This from another exchange on a TWR FB site

C R @Drdave Perry, my reply is perhaps inexcusable, but honest. I simply do not have the time to devote to reading all the books that I would like to and my financial resources are limited. I can’t buy a book to have it gather dust on the shelf. I must know I can devote the time to read and study anything I purchase. I find your insights concerning the Melchizedek/Levitical Priesthoods to be important and compelling. I appreciate how much you are willing to share for “free”, knowing the investment and devotion you have given to the topic. This topic sits in the back of my mind, and bit by bit, my reading of Scripture reveals and highlights the importance and relevance of it. I am grateful and thankful for what you do share, and for the questions you provoke in my own thinking. What you post, and the questions you ask helps kick down the walls of the boxes I am constantly building in my understandings and belief, and keep me in a teachable mode., constantly seeking His truth.

Drdave Perry – @C R – While I can agree with you concerning – ‘buy[ing] a book to have it gather dust on the shelf. That is the point – that is the human psyche – if one doesn’t put out value – they won’t place value on

On 1 level I can hardly believe my having to make a case for such a small amount – 15 bucks will not tax anyone – Yet obviously you all have a Computer – with Software – Internet Connection – etc. which all costs (some ongoing) way more than a 1 time 15 bucks

Then there is the fact that most of you give tithe&offerings&donations to some where (???) that teach ‘mixed’ messages and/or don’t teach any of what I teach here; yet I don’t see even a 1 time penny from most of you here on TWR

All this not considering where or how much ‘dust’ has gathered

I am compelled to point out

Gal 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate (contribute, support, give, distribute, ongoing, etc.) unto him that teacheth in all good things.

This is the Melkizedeq mandate of the New Testament

That to ‘sow sparingly’ is to ‘reap sparingly’ – That to ‘sow bountifully’ is to ‘reap bountifully’

That also is the Melkizedeq principle of the New Testament along with several others concerning ongoing contribution.

You say you believe? – You say you strive to obey? – I cannot compel or mandate your individual obedience that is up to each 1 of you.

But I can make all of you aware that you will either enjoy or suffer your reward – Despite the excuse – Remember ‘reward’ can be – but – does not have to be good

Enjoy your reward

Two Opinions

Two Opinions

1Kgs 18:21 ¶ And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Yah be Elohim, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. **And the people answered him not a word**

In like kind – Most here on TWR; **answer not a word** – Some do and I Thankyou for that.

With almost 7000 people here on TWR; and so many assertions of both the Church, the Jewish and Rabbinic Community being in error on so many topics. Stemming mostly because of the respective views of the indivisibility of ‘The Law’ – that is; not seeing the proper ‘dividing point’ (2Tim.2:15) of the Melkizedeq Covenants, Priesthood & Laws from the Plan ‘B’ Levitical Priesthood and its Laws (Heb.7:11).

Aside from the fact that 90% of you have not gotten my books – what is it that I have not said or can answer to reveal the validity of truth of the Rightly ‘dividing point’ (2Tim.2:15) & what objection can I answer to reveal that same truth?

If you don’t have questions – that just means you are not as well informed as you could be – You need to get my books – you will soon have questions.

If you do have questions – and are not posing them; that just means you are not as well informed as you should be – You need to get my books – you will soon have questions to pose.

There is much that the Church has to accept, recognize and factor back in of the validity of the Melkizedeq Priesthood and Law

There is much that the Jewish and Rabbinic Community has to accept, recognize and factor back out distilling down to/back to (Heb.7:12) the validity of the Melkizedeq Priesthood and Law

There is very much that the Messianic Community (et. al) coming from the Church; looking to the Jewish and Rabbinic Community has to discern, accept, recognize and factor back out distilling down to/back to (Heb.7:12) the validity of the Melkizedeq Priesthood and Melkizedeq Law

Please venture a statement, a question, an insight, a correction, an awareness, etc. pertaining to the Melkizedeq Priesthood and Law vs: Levitical Priesthood and Law

If you would like to contact me with a question or ??? – 1st make sure you respond Biblically and not Emotionally and that your proof is Biblical and by Acts 17:11 fully-accounted-for.

Pr 27:17 ¶ Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Yah’s Esteem

Opportunity

Opportunity

I have been going to a home Wed. evening Sunday Keeper Bible study that do use their Bibles. I also go to a ‘Saturday’ morning Men’s (Ah -hmm) Bible Study at 1 of the largest Sunday Churches in my immediate area. I’ve been going so that I can inject a more Messianic perspective; after all Yahshua was said to be the friend of publicans & sinners – How can any of us hope to affect a change by playing ‘keep away’? I say ‘Ah -hmm’ because the Bible is seldom opened. It has been frustrating for they use a preprepared memo sheet with preprepared situational questions aimed at topics such as Love, Forgiveness, Mercy, Giving, Gifts, Honor, etc. – today’s topic was on Discipline.

Of course as a rule – I go in selling not buying – Yet you never know what you’re going to learn or where. It does afford a opportunity to remember the errors of the past – while being made aware of the tactics today and to catch the blanks that need to be filled in.

My main purpose for being there is to raise awareness of Covenant, Torah & Priesthood. As you may be aware of, they fashion their topics away from these areas. I do pray that Yah opens an opportunity to speak His Truth. As it happened the guy next to me spoke of the harsh authoritarian regimen of his father that would be tempered by the love of his mother. He went on to say that as he grew older he could see that if he only had his mother – that he would have run over her; I could use that!

I told these men that we always hear of grace, love & mercy from the New Testament – that this approach is much like a nurturing mother. But – we have to remember that there was also grace, love & mercy even in the Old Testament that we usually think of as giving Law; that we would do well to see as a guiding father – that we need both.

I then relayed something Josh McDowell had said, that – ‘Law without Grace is Regimen – BUT – Grace without Law is licenses’ – that we need both. Then I told them the 1st verse I bothered to remember, because it was so Nose to Nose in your face – The way I remembered it was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 – I could remember that – It was 1st John, 2nd Chapter, Verses 3, 4 & 5

1Jn 2:3 ¶ And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of Yah perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

And this for added measure

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Of course that means Yahshua kept His Father’s will (Jn.7:16)

The obvious is inescapable – So should we!

Yah’s Esteem

Radio

Radio

Gene Porter @ “Last Tuesday’s (6/17) edition of The Wall Watchmen featured Drdave Perry of “Torah Without Rabbinics.” We spent a very busy hour covering numerous points that he had to make concerning doctrinal misunderstandings that exist among Christians, Messianics, and Jews alike. Give it a listen; I promise that it will make you think.

http://www.messianiclambradio.com/wall/14/watchmen6-17-14.mp3

The Way of who?

WotM

The Way of who?

This from Ace

“the way of the master…
The Master is the term the Freemasons use. In kabbalah, they light the two candles at the start of Shabbat. They believe that this opens a portal that they use to jump from the 9th level to the 11th. The 10th level is the level [Yah] is in. So, I ask this kabbalah guy what happens when a person jumps over [Yah's] level. He said, “Then they become the Master”. I am thinking that Ray is a player… Kabbalah. He is teaching disobedience, which is the way of Satan”.

“You must read this article from Ray Comfort.
He is one of them, not one of us:

http://www.transfired.org/articles/sabbath.html” – Unquote

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My response

I already knew that Ray Comfort of ‘Way of the Master’ was a Sunday Keeper; Yet using the 10 Com’dts as a witnessing script (Which is a Great idea IF you keep the Covenant including the Sabbath, Annual Feasts,etc. and the Messianic seriously need to correct and make use this) – but did not know how dishonest Ray Comfort could be.

Ps 50:16 ¶ But unto the wicked [Yah] saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?
17 Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee.

Make NO mistake the 10 Com’dts of Ex.20 are part of the entire Book of the Covenant (Ex.19:5-24:8)

Quote from Ray Comfort’s article -
“…Acts 15:10-11, 24-29 was God’s opportunity to make His will clear to His children. … The only commands they gave were to refrain “from meat offered to idols, from blood, things strangled and from fornication…”

This is a greasy cut&paste he leaves out :19 – 21, but then narrates :20 without verse designation??? – Then says ‘nowhere’ ???

Acts 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to [Yah]:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day.

Also from this article Ray Comfort cherry-picks a quote from D.L.Moody but chooses to leave out;

D. L. Moody, Weighed and Wanting (Fleming H. Revell Co.: New York), pp. 47, 48. — http://www.biblesabbath.org/confessions.html

“The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. This fourth commandment begins with the word ‘remember,’ showing that the Sabbath already existed when God Wrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?”

I wonder why???

Ray Comfort chooses this next quote from D.L.Moody that reveals both of their faulty Rabbinic understanding

“… then we are obligated to keep the whole 613 precepts.”

The 613 lores/laws is a Rabbinic construct of varied fanciful imaginative enforcements that both repeats itself, fabricates extrapolations, while it ignores other not mentioned valid Torah instruction.

Anyone can fashion quite a tale – IF you are willing to ignore fully-accounted-for Truth.

Choose Wisely